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	<title>Comments on: Boxer the Trapper (of Global Warming Deniers)</title>
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		<title>By: Alicia Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-164799</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicia Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Warming and Climate Change        is the biggest environmental issue that we face these days. the long term effects of these environmental changes to a nations economy is quite damaging. there would be a shortage in food supply as well as on water supply too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Warming and Climate Change        is the biggest environmental issue that we face these days. the long term effects of these environmental changes to a nations economy is quite damaging. there would be a shortage in food supply as well as on water supply too.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-164798</link>
		<dc:creator>Alicia Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Warming and Climate Change        is the biggest environmental issue that we face these days. the long term effects of these environmental changes to a nations economy is quite damaging. there would be a shortage in food supply as well as on water supply too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Warming and Climate Change        is the biggest environmental issue that we face these days. the long term effects of these environmental changes to a nations economy is quite damaging. there would be a shortage in food supply as well as on water supply too.</p>
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		<title>By: Beautiful Girls Gallery</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-150567</link>
		<dc:creator>Beautiful Girls Gallery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming is becoming such an obvious problem that someone somewhere other than the US Preisdent needs to step up to help drive the bus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming is becoming such an obvious problem that someone somewhere other than the US Preisdent needs to step up to help drive the bus!</p>
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		<title>By: Carbon Tax Center &#187; Carbon Revenue Recycling is Focus of Capitol Hill Briefing</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-34442</link>
		<dc:creator>Carbon Tax Center &#187; Carbon Revenue Recycling is Focus of Capitol Hill Briefing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tax or the auction proceeds of cap-and-trade.Several noted the most egregious flaws of the defeated Lieberman cap-and-trade bill: it would have given away emission permits and auction revenues, mainly to fossil fuel industries, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tax or the auction proceeds of cap-and-trade.Several noted the most egregious flaws of the defeated Lieberman cap-and-trade bill: it would have given away emission permits and auction revenues, mainly to fossil fuel industries, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lig tv</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-27891</link>
		<dc:creator>lig tv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Headlines Climate Bill Voted Down (Grist, Carbon Tax Blog)High Price of
Oil-Based Asphalt Delays Paving Projects (USA Today)Rural Areas Reeling
From High</description>
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Oil-Based Asphalt Delays Paving Projects (USA Today)Rural Areas Reeling<br />
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		<title>By: John Burton</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-23872</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make a carbon tax feasible politically, we must always list it as &quot;a revenue-neutral carbon tax&quot; and add that the revenues will all go to people, none to corporations.
  Renewables urgently need continued government funding , but this should come out of other government revenues. 
  John Burton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make a carbon tax feasible politically, we must always list it as &quot;a revenue-neutral carbon tax&quot; and add that the revenues will all go to people, none to corporations.<br />
  Renewables urgently need continued government funding , but this should come out of other government revenues.<br />
  John Burton</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-23086</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I
think about the &quot;global warming scare&quot; with skepticism. I have seen
the evidence for global change and I am convinced that it is happening.
However, I also see it from a geologic point of view that is bigger than the
typical human perspective, I think, and which accepts mass extinctions.&#160;
Maybe it is because I don&#039;t have kids, the thought of global change does not
terrify me, and even if it did, I do not believe all of the scare, even as it
is currently happening.&#160; I think that yes, global change, and global
warming is happening, it is fascinating to look at the impact that humans have
made on the planet!! (like the brain specialist watching herself have a stroke)

I remember the &quot;paper shortage&quot; when I was a kid.&#160; After saving
and conserving paper with the best intentions, I felt betrayed when I found out
that we no longer have a paper shortage.&#160; I remember asking myself
&quot;what does that mean that we no longer have a paper shortage? Does that
mean there are more trees now?” I concluded (in terms that a child would come
up with) that the paper shortage was &lt;em&gt;created&lt;/em&gt; and that moralistic
arguments were used to change my behavior for reasons that had little to do
with environmental conservation and saving trees, and I resented that, even as
a kid.&#160; 

I don&#039;t go for moralistic and dramatic arguments, (at the same time I believe
that global warming is happening, based on my own interpretation of
environmental measurements).&#160; They turn me off.&#160;&#160; I would rather
that the discussion focus on: who does the environment belong to, and what is
sustainable economically and environmentally?&#160; What are the real economics
involved in the use of environmental resources such as burning of fossil
fuels?&#160; Let’s have an integrated and big picture examination from this
perspective (or look at the work that has been done in this area). &#160;Who
currently makes a profit on the resources that are used to supply energy?&#160;
How much profit do they make?&#160; Is this working?&#160; Is this
sustainable?&#160; Why have many alternative technologies not been explored further
up to now? &#160;Let’s examine the current system, learn from our mistakes and
move forward. &#160;It seems to me that a carbon tax is a step in the right direction.&#160;
Should anyone make a huge profit on the resources that we use to supply energy?
&#160;How is the cost of that energy determined and where is that money
going?&#160; What are the cheapest (including consideration of environmental
economics) ways that we can produce energy? Given limited energy resources,
what are the best ways to motivate individuals, large corporations, and our own
nation, to conserve fuel and to consider the true cost of their actions? I
think that the answer is to have a sustainable system that charges the true
cost for the energy used.&#160; 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I<br />
think about the &quot;global warming scare&quot; with skepticism. I have seen<br />
the evidence for global change and I am convinced that it is happening.<br />
However, I also see it from a geologic point of view that is bigger than the<br />
typical human perspective, I think, and which accepts mass extinctions.&nbsp;<br />
Maybe it is because I don&#8217;t have kids, the thought of global change does not<br />
terrify me, and even if it did, I do not believe all of the scare, even as it<br />
is currently happening.&nbsp; I think that yes, global change, and global<br />
warming is happening, it is fascinating to look at the impact that humans have<br />
made on the planet!! (like the brain specialist watching herself have a stroke)</p>
<p>I remember the &quot;paper shortage&quot; when I was a kid.&nbsp; After saving<br />
and conserving paper with the best intentions, I felt betrayed when I found out<br />
that we no longer have a paper shortage.&nbsp; I remember asking myself<br />
&quot;what does that mean that we no longer have a paper shortage? Does that<br />
mean there are more trees now?” I concluded (in terms that a child would come<br />
up with) that the paper shortage was <em>created</em> and that moralistic<br />
arguments were used to change my behavior for reasons that had little to do<br />
with environmental conservation and saving trees, and I resented that, even as<br />
a kid.&nbsp; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t go for moralistic and dramatic arguments, (at the same time I believe<br />
that global warming is happening, based on my own interpretation of<br />
environmental measurements).&nbsp; They turn me off.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would rather<br />
that the discussion focus on: who does the environment belong to, and what is<br />
sustainable economically and environmentally?&nbsp; What are the real economics<br />
involved in the use of environmental resources such as burning of fossil<br />
fuels?&nbsp; Let’s have an integrated and big picture examination from this<br />
perspective (or look at the work that has been done in this area). &nbsp;Who<br />
currently makes a profit on the resources that are used to supply energy?&nbsp;<br />
How much profit do they make?&nbsp; Is this working?&nbsp; Is this<br />
sustainable?&nbsp; Why have many alternative technologies not been explored further<br />
up to now? &nbsp;Let’s examine the current system, learn from our mistakes and<br />
move forward. &nbsp;It seems to me that a carbon tax is a step in the right direction.&nbsp;<br />
Should anyone make a huge profit on the resources that we use to supply energy?<br />
&nbsp;How is the cost of that energy determined and where is that money<br />
going?&nbsp; What are the cheapest (including consideration of environmental<br />
economics) ways that we can produce energy? Given limited energy resources,<br />
what are the best ways to motivate individuals, large corporations, and our own<br />
nation, to conserve fuel and to consider the true cost of their actions? I<br />
think that the answer is to have a sustainable system that charges the true<br />
cost for the energy used.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog LA &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-23077</link>
		<dc:creator>Streetsblog LA &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Headlines  Climate Bill Voted Down (Grist, Carbon Tax Blog) LA Falls from 10th to 17th in Measure of Urban Wealth Worldwide (Daily News)Transportation Bill [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-23071</link>
		<dc:creator>Streetsblog &#187; Today&#8217;s Headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Headlines  Climate Bill Voted Down (Grist, Carbon Tax Blog)High Price of Oil-Based Asphalt Delays Paving Projects (USA Today)Rural Areas Reeling From High [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hey, You, Get Offa My Cloud. &#124; Anthropogenic Global Warming Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2008/06/07/boxer-the-trapper-of-global-warming-deniers/comment-page-1/#comment-23070</link>
		<dc:creator>Hey, You, Get Offa My Cloud. &#124; Anthropogenic Global Warming Bull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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