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	<title>Comments on: A Carbon Tax Would Be Cleaner</title>
	<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2007/08/23/a-carbon-tax-would-be-cleaner/</link>
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		<title>By: Bob Arning</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2007/08/23/a-carbon-tax-would-be-cleaner/#comment-5780</link>
		<author>Bob Arning</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2: To be fair, I'm not sure there is a "consensus" yet, at least in the democratic sense. While many of us paying close attention have formed an opinion, I suspect many, many more are still unclear about a lot of details. An an anecdote, I was recently called by someone polling about issues in the upcoming presidential campaign. When asked what I thought was the number 1 issue, I said "Iraq". When asked for number 2, I paused and then said, "global warming". His response was a puzzled, "really?". If someone asking this question a lot is surprised that global warming might appear at number 2, then consensus is still off in the distance somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2: To be fair, I&#8217;m not sure there is a &#8220;consensus&#8221; yet, at least in the democratic sense. While many of us paying close attention have formed an opinion, I suspect many, many more are still unclear about a lot of details. An an anecdote, I was recently called by someone polling about issues in the upcoming presidential campaign. When asked what I thought was the number 1 issue, I said &#8220;Iraq&#8221;. When asked for number 2, I paused and then said, &#8220;global warming&#8221;. His response was a puzzled, &#8220;really?&#8221;. If someone asking this question a lot is surprised that global warming might appear at number 2, then consensus is still off in the distance somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: David Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2007/08/23/a-carbon-tax-would-be-cleaner/#comment-5779</link>
		<author>David Collins</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last paragraph -- the last two sentences --&#160;appear to me as&#160;perhaps the snazziest sample of global warming denial I have seen recently. At odds with the well-reasoned, well-written essay itself. &#34;Concensus&#34; is denied because nobody is going the Carbon Tax way. Entirely untouched and unacknowledged are other motivations, like people morally and intellectually&#160;acknowledging global warming and the need to spectacularly reduce greenhouse gas emissions, while feeling ambivalent about dedicating themselves to what seems a not-so-fun lifestyle. It makes me&#160;wonder whether we should&#160;consider adapting&#160;the famous prayer of Saint Augustine: &#34;God, grant me chastity and continence, but not yet&#34; -- by substituting carbon sins for carnal sins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last paragraph &#8212; the last two sentences &#8211;&nbsp;appear to me as&nbsp;perhaps the snazziest sample of global warming denial I have seen recently. At odds with the well-reasoned, well-written essay itself. &quot;Concensus&quot; is denied because nobody is going the Carbon Tax way. Entirely untouched and unacknowledged are other motivations, like people morally and intellectually&nbsp;acknowledging global warming and the need to spectacularly reduce greenhouse gas emissions, while feeling ambivalent about dedicating themselves to what seems a not-so-fun lifestyle. It makes me&nbsp;wonder whether we should&nbsp;consider adapting&nbsp;the famous prayer of Saint Augustine: &quot;God, grant me chastity and continence, but not yet&quot; &#8212; by substituting carbon sins for carnal sins.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2007/08/23/a-carbon-tax-would-be-cleaner/#comment-5778</link>
		<author>Dan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.carbontax.org/blogarchives/2007/08/23/a-carbon-tax-would-be-cleaner/#comment-5778</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;The op-ed concludes:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At the end of the day, a strict cap-and-trade program would have the
          same effect as a carbon tax, one that's high enough, eventually, to
          encourage switching to cleaner generation, but that's gradually imposed
          over a decade so that companies have plenty of time to plan. &lt;/p&gt;
        &lt;p&gt;Such a tax would make emissions more expensive; discourage carbon-intensive
          power generation; and it would allow the market to decide which environmentally
          more-friendly technologies would be competitive enough to take its place.
          A tax per ton of carbon would mean higher power prices, too, but without
          direct subsidies to developing nations by paying for their power-plant
          upgrades. &lt;/p&gt;
        &lt;p&gt;Nor would a carbon tax create a new multibillion-dollar global commodity
          whose value would depend on political manipulation. The feds could use
          the revenues from such a levy to reduce other taxes—including dividend
          and capital-gains taxes further to spur the massive private investment
          needed to build the next generation of power generators—while ensuring
          that they're also creating a political and regulatory climate to encourage
          such mass-scale construction. &lt;/p&gt;
        &lt;p&gt;If it's true that a global warming consensus really exists—and not
          just in press releases and speeches—politicians and business leaders
          wouldn't be afraid to suggest such a tax. They would insist on it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The op-ed concludes:</p>
<p>At the end of the day, a strict cap-and-trade program would have the<br />
          same effect as a carbon tax, one that&#8217;s high enough, eventually, to<br />
          encourage switching to cleaner generation, but that&#8217;s gradually imposed<br />
          over a decade so that companies have plenty of time to plan. </p>
<p>Such a tax would make emissions more expensive; discourage carbon-intensive<br />
          power generation; and it would allow the market to decide which environmentally<br />
          more-friendly technologies would be competitive enough to take its place.<br />
          A tax per ton of carbon would mean higher power prices, too, but without<br />
          direct subsidies to developing nations by paying for their power-plant<br />
          upgrades. </p>
<p>Nor would a carbon tax create a new multibillion-dollar global commodity<br />
          whose value would depend on political manipulation. The feds could use<br />
          the revenues from such a levy to reduce other taxes—including dividend<br />
          and capital-gains taxes further to spur the massive private investment<br />
          needed to build the next generation of power generators—while ensuring<br />
          that they&#8217;re also creating a political and regulatory climate to encourage<br />
          such mass-scale construction. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s true that a global warming consensus really exists—and not<br />
          just in press releases and speeches—politicians and business leaders<br />
          wouldn&#8217;t be afraid to suggest such a tax. They would insist on it. </p>
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